Things handmade and handwritten have a special appeal to me — perhaps it’s something about the humanness of their imperfection and scale. Who doesn’t like to find a real letter in the mailbox amidst the stack of bills and solicitations? Postmarked from France, I turned the envelope over in my hands and opened it with curiosity.
Written on stationery imprinted with two pretty leaves in the upper left and a return address from Suzanne Lopez in France, it was dated June 28, 2010, and read as follows:
Dear Ms. Sky Pape,
I am 16 years old and Art is my passion. I’m writing to you to express my admiration and my enthusiasm for your artistic way and for your works, your creations – I find them wonderful.
I would be very happy to have your autograph on the small card I’m sending you, for my ‘imaginary Museum’…
Thank you very much.
Sincerely,
Suzanne
Sweet, right? For about a second, I was flattered. It was just that part about putting my “autograph” on the small card, a blank, white index card, that had all my alarms going off in a deafening cacophonous din. I am not saying I don’t have fans — it is a source of great pleasure that I happen to know personally or virtually almost every kind soul who has collected or ever admired my work. Clearly, this was a case for some detective work (i.e., Google), if there ever was one.
In a matter of seconds, I found my answer in an article by Sarah Hall from the Salisbury Post, dated June 27, 2008. Ms. Hall, a composer, had received the same letter, essentially verbatim, from Suzanne Lopez – with the notable exception that back in 2008, Suzy was claiming to be 17, and “music is my passion.” According to Ms. Hall, she heard from people from across the US and Europe who had received the same letter.
Having been a victim of identity theft in the past (a nightmare to be sure!), I had no intention of sending my easily scannable signature to anyone. Still, though this reeked of being a scam, it seemed like a very expensive one, having someone write letters by hand and pay for postage? For what ends? What does a signature even mean anymore? Maybe this “imaginary museum” was just the pet project of some oddball who thought they needed to pass themselves off as a teenage girl in order to get the desired response.
It’s hard for me to imagine what this person would want with my signature. It’s not as if my work is anything that could be easily forged and then have my signature appended to it for authenticity. (Though BEWARE, some work is indeed much easier to rip off — case in point: Lori McNee and the copycat artist.)
I’m no a stranger to fan mail, having been on the sending end more than once. As a kid, I sent George Harrison a flawlessly rendered pencil portrait of him, capturing the soulful gaze of the ‘spiritual’ Beatle. I requested no reply and even though I never heard back from him, surely he treasured it — as sensitive as he was. As a tween, already interested in pursuing art and busy working on honing the skills required for realistic representation of the world, I wrote to one of Canada’s eminent artists at the time, Ken Danby, asking for any advice he might share. He wrote back, offering some encouragement and aphorisms about being an artist. In recent years, I’ve even written to a favorite teacher from junior high school, telling him how his teaching made a lasting impression on my life, only to hear back that when he received my note, he happened to have been carrying a photo of me and a fellow student in his briefcase for weeks, intending to show his current students how kids dressed “back in the day” when he started teaching. There have been other letters sent from time to time. It feels good to let people know that they have meant something to me — that they and their work, ideas, and experience have value and meaning.
In their efforts to shepherd their work into the world, artists tend to be particularly vulnerable to people trying to take financial and personal advantage of them. Many people know I like to do my bit to keep the USPS alive, but like everyone else, my bullshit-detector must always be on. If Suzanne Lopez is a real person, I don’t mean to poke fun at you or be cruel. However, I think I’ll save the postage, and just post my reply online:
Dear Suzanne Lopez,
I’m writing to you to express my appreciation for your ‘admiration and enthusiasm of my artistic way.’ A sincere letter of thanks or admiration can be a wonderful thing, and it’s always meaningful to know when someone has felt a connection with the work. I am sorry, but in this age of crime and identity theft, it seems unwise and against my better judgment to provide you with a copy of my signature.
If you really exist and don’t want people to think you are a con artist or criminal, I’d suggest writing something individualized and sincere to every artist and composer to whom you reach out, refraining from lying about your age or falsifying any other information about yourself, and not asking for anything in return. I hope you develop a passion for truth that exceeds your passion for art and music.
Sincerely,
Sky
If anyone else has received similar “fan” letters, please feel free to comment below!
p.s. There is a follow-up to this post you may wish to read here: https://skypape.wordpress.com/2010/10/09/not-so-fan-tastic-part-ii/
Well, in the same category as “I can’t even get arrested!”, I’m almost envious SOMEONE wrote to you! I mean, to propagate an email scam is one thing, but you almost have to admire (I use the word loosely) a putative scammer who nonetheless takes the time to write a handwritten letter, endures the pure hell of a French post office, pays the exorbitant postage… all because he sees value in your signature!
That said, Sky, I’d be happy to translate your letter into French if you like!
I received the same letter, verbatim, marked July 10, 2010. While I wanted to believe it was real, I hesitated to reply. The signature and lack of specifics in the letter were the give away. This morning I did a search for this person and found your blog. Thanks for posting this, it must be a scam!
Dear Suellen,
I am in Paris at the moment and doing and research and art project about this. Could you do me a favour and send me if you still keep it a scan of the letter you received?
Thanks for your help!
BEN
autograph_fan@gmx.com
Crazy! So believable but maybe 16 is a little old to be playing “imaginary museum”!
I got one just like it – suspicion got me googling and found your blog. The letter come across as a conceptual art project (probably about the vanity of artists) rather than a fan.
I received the ditto letter, but address is changed
Suzzane Lopez
Bte 52
43 bis bd Davout
75020 Paris
France.
dated August 26,2010.
Dear Mr. Rajesh Pullarwar,
I am 16 years old and Art is my passion. I’m writing to you to express my admiration and my enthusiasm for your artistic way and for your works, your creations – I find them wonderful.
I would be very happy to have your autograph on the small card I’m sending you, for my ‘imaginary Museum’…
Thank you very much.
Sincerely,
Suzanne
I didn’t investigate anything about her and today I replied her in the morning.
Some time before I found her letter was lying on my table, I read it again carefully and started searching Suzzane on google. I found your link. Then I found below link too.
http://www.salisburypost.com/Lifestyle/062708-Sarah-Hall-column
Tomorrow I will try to get back the letter from Post office if possible.
Thanks for the blog.
May be she is honest.
Take care
Rajesh Pullarwar
Rajesh, I’m sorry to hear you responded to Suzanne Lopez before finding this information. I do hope you were able to get your letter before the Post Office sent it, though I imagine that is difficult!
I just heard from a German artist living in Italy that he received that had the same wording, same address, same stationery – everything! As strange as this is, I can’t believe it is anything but a ploy to exploit artists for nefarious purposes.
It really ticks me off to think of someone trying to take advantage of a population that is generally financially vulnerable to begin with (not that anybody deserves to be ripped off). We artists have to look out for each other!
Received same letter dated augst 2010- although letter was sent to my galley with a note to forward it to me.
thanks for posting!
Hi!
I am an Estonian poet and I got the very same letter from Suzanne Lopez, sent August 27, 2009, this time it was: “Poetry is my passion.” First, it was great surpise to me, because there is no any translations of my poems into French or even any other well-known language. So, where from I got this fan, I thought. Secondly, I am very lazy when I have to write a tradiotinal letter, so it was not until today, when I decided to send asked autograph. But before this I decided to google little bit, and I am very grateful to you because your blog post. I don’t know what this is, but this is suspicious and weird. I myself collect autographs, I have sent hundreds of this kind letters, but this time circumstances are too weird. So it was ringing my bullshit bells too.
With Best Wishes
Wimberg
Amazing! Maybe Suzanne is mysteriously fluent in Estonian – I really couldn’t say. But if you have any concerns, I’m glad you found this and decided to listen to your “BS bells.” 🙂
Hey all,
Very Interesting blog post. I just found my letter, sitting in a drawer that I received marked December 30, 2005, address to my alma mater in Canada (they forwarded it to me).
When I got it, I google her name but did not find any info. Now, many years later, I decided to google her once again and see if I could find out who she was, and only now found out that this has happend before. Amazing!
My letter reads:
“Dear Michael Vincent, I am 16 years old and Music is my passion. I’m discovering your work, and I’m writing to you to express my admiration and my enthusiasm for your musical way and for your compositions, your creations – I find them wonderful. I would be very happy to have your autograph on the small card I’m sending you, Please! Thank you very much and Happy new year! Sincerely Suzanne”
Mine also can eon the exact same stationary. Her address is listed
Suzanne Lopez
Btw 52
25 rue P. de La Tour du Pin
75020 Paris
France
Sadly I send in the card… Who know what became of it.
I think this strange story may just inspire a new composition! haha
~M.
I just got this same letter yesterday.
And i found it to be too weird.
First, how did this person get my address.
I do not believe i have published that anywhere.
And i find it weird that persons listening to the kind of obscure stuff i do would collect autographs. It did not make any sense to me.
I found it kind of scary and freakish to get this letter.
I have before found out about an ebay scam by checking an address so that´s what i did now.
I found no proper information on that name, except something similar in some musician´s forum where she is asking for the autograph i think..The address gave me this blog. Excellent. Glad i found this.
Almost exactly the same wordings you people talk about, except she has changed her name and she is not a young girl anymore..no age mentioned.
Now her name is Martina Lopez.
“Martina Lopez
43 Bis Boulevard Davout (bte 52)
75020 Paris
France”
And the letter:
Dear mr…
Music is my passion, and I am writing to you to express my admiration and my enthusiasm
for your musical way and for your works, your compositions – I find them wonderful.
I would be very happy to have your autograph on the small card I´m sending you.
Thank you very much
Sincerely
Martina Lopez
I have no idea what this could be used for.
But it sure is weird.
I receives a similar letter yesterday 19.august 2011. Googled her name and found this website. The text was in a similar way, and I have no intentions of returning my autograph.
Bodvar. Norway
Received the same aswell … today! 24/6/2011 Martina Lopez…
thanks for this blog, I wont reply of course.. but I’m happy to be part of this group!
regards from Italy.
p.s. sorry today it’s 24/8/2011 … still regards
Thanks to Michael, RM, Bodvar, Marco and everyone else for your comments, letting me and others know that strange letters are still being received from Suzanne and/or Martina Lopez. I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks this is kind of fishy!
Dear Suzzane Lopez/ Martina,
I have recived your letter, thank you very much !
I have read ‘No so Fan tas tic’
And I’m so curios about your [artistic] concept.
I did not understand what is about.
Do you want explain me please ?
With kind regards,
Philemon Mukarno – Composer
info@philemonmukarno.com
Ps. you have a nice hand writing.
I too am a composer and received the same letter yesterday in Boston from ‘Martina’
One more here, in New York city. One variation: it was written in spanish (my native language). This time it was Martina, not Suzanne. The day is November 7, 2011.
I am visual artist in Finland and received the new letter today different name and address in France, but same motive. The letter writer’s name is Xia Xu.
You aren’t the only one to hear from Xia Xu. I don’t know if there’s any record of this person using “autographs” for illegal purposes, but I would be very cautious about delivering my signature to someone who sends cookie-cutter letters to artists bearing standardized “compliments”, while lying about her (his?) age and using a false name. Insincerity does not deserve a generous response. Artists beware!
I received a similar letter yesterday, written March 23, 2012 by Ms. Xia Xu
Bte 12 – Rubin
43 bis bol Davout
75020 Paris
France
Art is the passion in this letter, but no age is mentioned.
It says nothing about when and where Xia Xu has seen my work (art).
All your ccomments convinces me that this is not a conceptual work of art nor an actual fan. Thank you. I am not going to send this person anything.
CPH, Denmark.
Same letter but mine came from
Suzanne Rubin
43 bis bd Davout
75020 Paris
France
I’m a composer by the way.
Got the same… same name and I am a composer too. Thanks for posting this. Thought it strange when I got it and pleased to see that my feelings were right!
Thank’s for posting!
I received the same letter April 20, 2012 from Suzanne Rubin.
Now I’m sure, it’s something criminal, they want use our “Autograph – Signature” … they have our address + our Signature, then they could do a lot of criminal thing. SHIT!
Thank’s at all for posting that on blob!
best,
fabrizio
Just now responding to Xia Xu, and feeling badly about it given the two-month delay after receiving her message in February. Googled the address to be sure I wrote it correctly. Found this. Frankly, this has much better anecdotal value. Thanks, Xia Xu! Brilliant!
I got the letter on May 22, 2011 and misplaced it until I found it back today. This time it was sent by
Ms. Xia Xu
Bte 12 – Rubin
43 bis bol Davout
75020 Paris
France
but me being a composer she was passionate about music again (literally same text as with others).
Before answering, I googled, found you blog and obviously refrained from responding. But the odd thing is, that some weeks before the letter arrived my credit card had been misused on the web (so no normal signature involved, which I hadn’t sent it anyway), and the criminals had booked a couple of AirFrance flights on my behalf. Pure chance?
I’m still hoping to discover it’s a long-time artistic project, but unfortunately it rather looks as if either a maniac or a criminal are behind this.
Weird. I got one of these too and happily didn’t respond. (Also from “Xia Xu.”)
New Zealand composer – I received one from Suzanne Rubin marked April 16, 2012.
I live in Italy and I’m an artist; I got the same identical letter yesterday. Same address but a different name (Xia Xiu). Tomorrow I’m going to my local postal police station..I guess it won’t be useful, but I think it’s correct to do it. The letter is 3 months old but I got it yesterday.
Ha! Got one today (8 November 2012) from Martine (no “a”) Lopez – same handwriting, same address, different (but equally decorative) notepaper. No claim to be 16 or 17 though – but “art is her passion”. The whole thing is weird. I haven’t got a signature she could use (top tip – don’t use the same signature for bank accounts etc and art!) and it was addressed to an old address and forwarded on. She/he could be just some collector writing to obscure people on the basis that the signatures could be worth something many years from now. Who knows?
Hi again – I also found this which amused me – somebody using her as a reference for their work! Ha ha! http://www.michaelconwaybaker.com/quotes.html
INCREDIBLE..CLEANING AN OLD DESK FOUND A LETTER,,DATED 19 DE ENERO DE 2005,,,,A BEATIFULL HAND WITTEN LETTER WITH TWO COLORFULL LEAVES..WITH A BLANK CARD,,,,,WAS FEELING ASHAMED OF NO RESPONDING HER!..DID GOOGLE XIA XU AND HERE I AM!……..TX.
My publisher forwarded a ‘fan letter’ to me today. It reads exactly the same.
From Martine Lopez , 43 B, Bd Devout,75020, Paris, France.
I was surprised at first to receive an ‘appreciation letter’ from a land and language so distant and different from mine, I am a poet writing in Malayalam, the language of a small state in the south west coast of India. Something about the letter was not so convincing, and I googled out the name and address !
Well, I can’t make out what the idea behind this project is .
However, I must add that I’m impressed by the hand writing .
Thankyou
Anitha Thampi
I received the same letter – from ‘Suzanne Lopez’ – in 2010. I never responded.
Thom Puckey
i got a letter today from a Marie Martinez that is almost the same letter. what a strange thing. has anyone ever had their identity stolen and traced it to this?
identical letter- written by XIA XU!
Hello
I just got the same letter today , I was really flattered and happy to receive this letter from a fan in France but then i Google the name and address and i got this blog and read all the replies above .. I really dunno why someone will do this and send this fake letter . My letter came with the same address but the name was MARIE MARTINEZ and the age was 16 . The only changed part was ” my admiration and my enthusiasm for your artistic way and for your WORKS,YOUR PHOTOS” it make sense since most of my work consist of photographs .
Thanks alot
Noor
Got the same letter, but years ago, feb 2005. Xia Xu, Bte 52 Lopez. Same adres in Paris: 25 rue P. de la tour du Pin. Feel so silly now that i responded, it was send to my gallery. Bit worried now, has anyone noticed any abuse? thanks for posting, Irene
I also received an identical ” I am a 16 year old girl, art is my passion, can i have your autograph?” letter in the same handwriting. Only this one is from a “Marie Martinez” in Paris. It was sent to the a gallery in Sweden where I exhibited.
It is clearly the same person who writes these letters using different names and addresses.
I was going through the papers of my elderly father, a Catalan sculptor living in Paris, and I found The Letter. It was addressed to one of his galleries, in Germany. It’s in flawless Castilian, dated 2009, and signed Suzanne Lopez, with 43 bis boulevard Davout in Paris as the return address. The card was still in the envelope, so he didn’t answer, though he kept it.
From the above, it seems that no one was harmed from answering the letter. Is that correct? If so, it suggests an eccentric rather than a scammer. Or someone who simply trades in autographs.
I just checked on Google maps, and it seems there is a 43, but no 43 bis. What would be the point of listing an address than doesn’t exist? Or is this some kind of performance art? I happen to be in Paris, and I’m tempted to check it out. Has anyone gone there?
Thanks to all you googlers and readers and creative sorts who have taken time to comment here.
I have not heard of anyone who has reported any harmful consequences of sending in their signature. On the other hand, I don’t think I’d know it unless someone found this blog and reported it here. I’m not in the business of doing criminal investigations!
I do know that this person continues to use various aliases and has not aged beyond 16 in several years. Considering the identical nature of the letters and the false name/age information that person always gives, it is difficult to believe she is a true admirer of any of the individuals contacted.
I cannot confirm any underhanded motives. One replies to her at one’s own risk. At best, it seems this may be no more than the self-serving project of an odd person whose obsession with collecting signatures under false pretenses is far greater than any real interest in the creative work of those she claims to admire.
In the meantime, I’d like to express my own true admiration and best wishes for each of you who are making sacrifices and working steadfastly to navigate the obstacles of a creative life. The sunny side of this is our being “Drawn Together” here!
Today I just received a letter from Marie Martinez! Same text as everyone else, and Art is her passion. Thank you for bringing this issue up in your blog. The letter itself does have nice handwriting 🙂
Well, my gallery gave me yesterday this nice letter too. The writer must be an old man. Now have to google all artists here too: there could be a coherence.
I received this letter. about a year ago it was sent to the university where i teach. exactly the same handwriting and little white card to sign. how strange.
Sent to my gallery and the same letter -Marie Martinez- but written in spanish, my language.
Just got the same letter from Marie Martinez dated April 7th. It came to the university where I teach and work in NYC. I was immediately skeptical. The signature does not match the name, however. It looks like a screw-up. Not sure why someone thinks they’re going to get points for posing as a minor. Has anyone notified the French authorities?
Thanks for taking the time to post these comments – it’s fascinating anyway.
Good thing I came across her blog. Even now, four years after her blog entry, these letters are still rumgeschickt. For me it was also Martina Lopez from Paris, France.
I’m very surprised by this way.
regards
Rayk
Ditto to all the above.
I received a letter today via one of my representing galleries, from a Martina Lopez, the handwriting is exact to your sample, the name has changed, amazingly she or he is still sixteen all these years later.
Thanks for running this blog, question though…… is this blog the resulting intended artwork of all this letter writing ? If it is it is a brilliant piece of doublethink
I received in London, from france, same wording – the white card I received that I was supposed to sign, rang alarm bell in my head too, with immediate thoughts of identity theft!
I received it in Azerbaijan, the same text asking the signature. And I got it 10 days ago, I was going to send it back, but before sending wanted to google the address which lead me to this blog. Thank you very much.
My gallery received this letter and forwarded it on to me. The name was “Marie”, sneaky, sneaky bastards. I get scam emails all the time, they’re easy to eliminate. However a hand-written note from an admirer…ooooh that is ever so sneaky! I only saw that it was a scam when I googled the address to make sure I was spelling it right and came across this blog.
I received the letter today in Brooklyn, NY through the artist collective, Ortega Y Gasset Projects, of which I belong. from “Marie Martinez”. Verbatim. Written on June 23rd. So glad to have found this blog. Thank you. I’m getting hit from all fronts: a bogus phone call from a supposed dealer in Mexico city, emails from a collector that wants me to send my work immediately. Ugh. Thank you again for posting.
Leo and I received the letter from Marie Martinez, Paris, yesterday, dated August 8 at our Vienna address. Same content and age. Thank you so much for this post!
Our ardent fan is still busy sending identical letters. I just received an email from an artist in Norway who got the same letter on July 13th from one “Marie Martinez” who claims to be age 16. The Norwegian artist said:
“This summer I received a letter from a »young french art passionate girl”, – which I found quite strange, there were too many details to make questions about in the letter. So I started to google the letter, and found your blog about the same letter 4 years ago. Identical letter, though she has changed her name. Maybe she did so after contacting you? Also the same Mr to me, still I am a woman.”
As I’ve said before, I don’t know if any criminal activity has ever been connected to these requests, but it would take an awful lot of convincing before I’d send my signature to anyone who lies about their own name and age. Be careful!
I just received the same letter from Marie Martinez. Dated July 28th, 2014. Just like everyone else I’m so glad to have found your blog, thanks.
I’m from Chile, and I have one dated 1995 from Martine Suzanne Rubin
Thanks for this blog. We just received the exact same letter here in Fitzroy Crossing, Western Australia for one of our most senior Indigenous artists. She was very flattered by the letter and I will leave her with that feeling, but we won’t be returning any mail to Miss Martinez.
Scary how far this stretches! The letter is dated September 10, 2014 and Marie Martinez is still 16 and passionate about art!
Lucky for the web!
Just got the same letter today from Marie Martinez, Paris… Really tireless person. Just curious where does she / he get home addresses. I don’t provide mine on my website, just used to send some offers to the art galleries some time ago…
I just received the some kind of letter from Marie Martinez Chez Rubin, Paris…. 16 years old!
I’m from Italy.
Thanks for this blog
October 24, 2014 I received, from Marie Martinez, no age mentioned, adress as above, bte 16, a letter of the type ‘Literature is my passion.’ The letter had been sent to my publisher, De Bezige Bij, Amsterdam, who forwarded it to my private address. The letter referred to a translation into French of a novel of mine, ‘Autoportrait avec parents.’ So far so good, I am a Dutch writer, and that translation is real.
But by now it would seem to me that this very website to which I am contributing now must be the intended work of art itself. Congratulations! This can go on for many years to come yet. Kind regards, Nicolaas Matsier
Just received the same autograph scam letter. The handwriting is an exact match. Thanks for the photo!
The crazy thing is, I facebook-searched the name, and it came up as a high school or early college girl in France with a profile. They’re using random peoples names from Facebook to back up their stories!
It’s almost verbatim, from a “Marie-Angele Martinez”. Chez Rubin bte 16 43 B bol Davout 75020 Paris France.
Dear Mr …..
I am 16 years old and Art is my passion. I am discovering your work, and I am writing to you to express my admiration and my enthusiasm for your artistic way and to your works, your creations.
I would be very happy to have your autograph on the small card I’am sending you.
I thank you very Much.
Suicerely,
Marie-Angel Martinez
Google brought me here to your blog after searching autograph scams and the same address popped up. I am an artist, and do have a web presence, and never even get email from my site. Set my spider senses tingling. Also the scannable white card was included. I may stamp it with something unprintable here and send it back.
I may send the whole letter to the Paris Police… (Now they have the address!)
I wonder if I should Facebook message the poor girl whose identity is being stolen for this as well?
I just thought that maybe the facebook profile could be bogus too…
I don’t think you should worry or get too concerned D. No one knows what this is all about but it appears to be harmless. The address has always been there (see earlier posts) but the “chez Rubin” appears to be new – out of interest you (and Sky) may be interested to know that there actually IS someone called Albert Rubin who lives an a flat at 43 Bd Davout in Paris – he’s in the phone book (easy to find on line).
Hello all. Since more people continue to share their experiences about receiving similarly strange “fan” mail, from time to time I like to thank you for taking time to comment. To my knowledge, there has never been any criminal activity associated with the autographs requested, thankfully. What still bothers me here is the letter-writer’s dishonesty about her (his?) age, name, and lack of true interest in the work she claims to admire (with the cookie-cutter letters).
If collecting signatures of artists, many unknown, is supposed to be an art project in itself, the concept is juvenile (hmm, maybe why she tries to pass as a teen).
In the art world, people who respect both the work and the person who creates it are hard to come by. Crazies, poseurs, and opportunists are commonplace.
“Suzanne/Marie/Marie-Angel” seems to be harmless, but her words and actions fail to convince me that she admires your work, or my work, or seeks these signatures for anything other than her own self-serving reasons – be they legal or not.
FYI, There is a follow-up to this post you may wish to read here: https://skypape.wordpress.com/2010/10/09/not-so-fan-tastic-part-ii/
Well, I received the identical letter a few weeks ago, signed “Marie-Angele Martinez,” and the address is “Chez Rubin, bet 16, 43 Boulevard Davout, 72020, Paris.” In the letter, the writer mentions having read my fiction collection which was translated into French and pub’d by Hachette, but aside from inserting “writer” where before there was “composer” or “artist,” it’s exactly the same letter, same handwriting. Do you suppose this is some kind of art project????
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I got same back in march this yer from Marie Martinez, Thanks I did not send any thing to this person – odd and scary.
I’m a novelist based in London. Found this post (thank you thank you) by googling to check an address to respond to a message from ‘Marie-Angèle Martinez’, chez Rubin bte 16, etc etc, for whom ‘Literature is [her] passion’. It’s her/him – same handwriting. No claim of age. I agree with those who think this is an art project of some sort – there are far easier ways of committing identity theft. (S/He also gets my gender wrong.)
I received this letter from Angéle Martinez, France – they wanted me to forward this to one of the Afghan artists I am working with. Similar wording.
hello, im from Italy and i received the same letter yesterday under the name Angéle Martinez. thanks for the post
I’m visual artist from Finland, got this letter too from Angéle Martinez, Paris, France.
hello, I have also received this letter from Angéle Martinez!!
Silvano Argiolas, visual artist
Dear Silvano,
I am in Paris at the moment and doing an research and art project about this. Could you do me a favour and send a scan of the letter you received? Thanks for your help!
BEN
autograph_fan@gmx.com
I am completely shocked …I too have received the exact same letter two months ago , only the name is Marie Martinez. Even more shocking is that she send this letter to a gallery I show my work at, with the note to be forwarded to me…I did find it very sweet but thought it was a bit strange she wanted an autograph. Thank god I didnt send her anything….. Good post …Thanks for the warning!! Melina Apostolidou, Visual artist.
I have just received the same letter, from Angele at the same address. Only now she is 17 and her passion is philosophy.
Anthony
Dear Anthony,
I am in Paris at the moment and doing an research and art project about this. Could you do me a favour and send a scan of the letter you received? Thanks for your help!
BEN
autograph_fan@gmx.com
I received the identical letter, same address, from Angele Martinez, age 16, sent to my Denver gallery, same white card, asking for an autograph–
Thanks for posting this–
Anne Arden McDonald, visual artist, Brooklyn NY
Dear Anne,
I am in Paris at the moment and doing an research and art project about this. Could you do me a favour and send a scan of the letter you received? Thanks for your help!
BEN
autograph_fan@gmx.com
Got the same sort of letter in August. As with Anthony Kenny, in my case “Angele” is now 17 and her “passion” is now philosophy.
Dear Edward,
I am in Paris at the moment and doing an research and art project about this. Could you do me a favour and send a scan of the letter you received? Thanks for your help!
BEN
autograph_fan@gmx.com
I just posted this at your follow up post, without having seen all these comments, so I’ll repost here;
I received the same letter and request, dated October 19, 2015, from “Angèle Rubin, who says she is 17 years old, and “Philosophy is my passion,” and that she has been reading my book, Waking, Dreaming, Being. I was very pleased by the gesture, but of course immediately had misgivings about sending my signature. I also did an internet search to see if I could find out anything further, and this post and your previous one immediately came up. Thanks for telling the world about this.
Angèle/Suzanne, if you are reading, your interest, if genuine, is touching, but as I’m sure you know by now, I can’t send you my autograph.
Dear Evan,
I am in Paris at the moment and doing an research and art project about this. Could you do me a favour and send a scan of the letter you received? Thanks for your help!
BEN
autograph_fan@gmx.com
Had the same letter last week as Ms Hall. This one was from a Marie Rubin at the address as in the other letters mentioned. In view of this blog., I shall not send my autograph. I was found through a composers’ information centre who forwarded the letter to me.
JEB
I got the similar letter from Suzanne Rubin [43 bis bd Davout Paris] – ‘Music is my passion’ – very sad that it still coming…
Dear Janet and Bianca ,
I am in Paris at the moment and doing an research and art project about this. Could you do me a favour and send a scan of the letter you received? Thanks for your help!
BEN
autograph_fan@gmx.com
Hi, I am a composer and I received the same letter from Marie Rubin, 43 B bd Davout (bte 16) 75020 Paris, France in Cork, Ireland.
I unfortunately sent “her” a CD, a photo signed and signed that white paper included. I did it before checking online because it seamed to be authentic, specific, I did not think about a SCAM and being busy I thought it was the right thing to do as I was close to the Post Office. When I come back home, after dinner, I checked on line the address and I found this post. I went to the Post Office but it was closed, I went to the Police Station and reported the fact. I wrote to the Postal service, to the Gendarmerie in France. I do not know what will happen then, what I have to expect and what I can do. I see they are many years this thing happens. Why nobody went to this address to check what’s going on?
I wouldn’t worry- it appears to be a weirdo collector rather than anything criminal.
Hello, Andrea. I agree with David’s reply to your message – I don’t think you really have to worry. This thread has been going on for a few years and I have not heard of anyone having experienced any kind of identity theft as a result. However, it is still a fact that the person sending these “form” letters is not being honest about a) having an interest in and admiration for the work of those she (or he?) contacts, and b) their age and information about themselves. It is, at best, a self-serving exercise for that person.
I must go around to the address next time I’m in Paris!
Thank you guys for your support, I truly hope that you are right.
It seems I am the only one that replied to the letter here.
I may post here the scanned letter (or send you the letters) so we can upgrade the post.
Then, hope that nothing will happen. Paris is so close to me.
Dear Andrea,
I am in Paris at the moment and doing an research and art project about this. Could you do me a favour and send a scan of the letter you received? Thanks for your help!
BEN
autograph_fan@gmx.com
Just got one from Marie Rubin via a dance group I’ve worked with. They were confused, but they sent it on to me. 43 B bd Davout (btw 16) 75020 Paris was the address used by her. I haven’t sent anything including the white card!
Dear Carl,
I am in Paris at the moment and doing an research and art project about this. Could you do me a favour and send a scan of the letter you received? Thanks for your help!
BEN
autograph_fan@gmx.com
Anyone can have my autograph tough.
Nothing can do with a scanned sign unless you had credit card, bank account details with passwords, real home address and many other details. And in case, everyone can contact me online and ask confirmations as he or she found my office address online.
Dear Andrea,
I am in Paris at the moment and doing an research and art project about this. Could you do me a favour and send a scan of the letter you received? Thanks for your help!
BEN
autograph_fan@gmx.com
Hello, I am a chilean musician and composer, and I have received the same letter and request twice. The first time in 2008 signed by Suzanne López, and the second one just few days ago, signed by Marie Rubin. I never answered. The first address was:
Suzzane Lopez
Btw 52
25 rue P. de La Tour du Pin
75020 Paris
France
The last address:
Marie Rubin
Bte 52
43 bis bd Davout
75020 Paris
France.
The letter was written in my language, the Spanish.
Anyway, if someone comes to know something, it would be interesting to know who is behind this….
Best!
Hola . Hoy recibí esa misma carta de Virginie lopes. Soy chileno. Pidiendo un autografo. Has sabido algo más sobre esto ? Esta persona es real ? O esto es un scammer ? Cordialmente,
Hola,
No, no he sabido nada más. Recibí esas dos cartas y nada más. No sé de qué se trata.
Saludos cordiales
Dear Oscar,
I am in Paris at the moment and doing an research and art project about this. Could you do me a favour and send a scan of the letter you received? Thanks for your help!
BEN
autograph_fan@gmx.com
Replace “art” with “music”, and I’ve received exactly the same letter — with exactly the SAME HAND-WRITING! Get this though: The sender name on mine is “Marie Rubin”, dated July 11, 2106. Yikes! Thanks for posting!
Dear you,
I am in Paris at the moment and doing an research and art project about this. Could you do me a favour and send a scan of the letter you received? Thanks for your help!
BEN
autograph_fan@gmx.com
I have received a letter of this kind from “Marie Rubin”, at the 20th-arrondisement address mentioned above. I am a mathematician. A colleague in the US also received such a letter.
We all have not idea why this person is sending sign requests. For the moment we suppose he/she is a weird collector instead of a scam attempt. I think that the address mentioned is not the real sender’s address, maybe this person is not there actually.
It looks like a box number (bte = boite).
Dear Harald,
I am in Paris at the moment and doing an research and art project about this. Could you do me a favour and send a scan of the letter you received? Thanks for your help!
BEN
autograph_fan@gmx.com
Many thanks for this post. My letter, dated July 16th 2016 was from ‘Marie Rubin’, who is now sixteen, has a passion for music and lives in Boucau. I felt rather flattered for about five minutes but then alarm bells started ringing, I did a quick internet search and found this site!
Dear Peter,
I am in Paris at the moment and doing and research and art project about this. Could you do me a favour and send a scan of the letter you received? Thanks for your help!
BEN
autograph_fan@gmx.com
I found your page after Googling the address on the letter I received from “Maria Martinez”…why the Spanish last names? Same letter, “passion for music”, etc. That was a strange experience.
Dear Calokid,
I am in Paris at the moment and doing and research and art project about this. Could you do me a favour and send a scan of the letter you received? Thanks for your help!
BEN
autograph_fan@gmx.com
Just got a letter like that today from Maria Martinez withe the exact letter. Glad I checked this out first.
Dear Stephen,
I am in Paris at the moment and doing and research and art project about this. Could you do me a favour and send a scan of the letter you received? Thanks for your help!
BEN
autograph_fan@gmx.com
Same handwriting as Suzanne Lopez’s letter, but different name and letter wording!
Antoine Lopez
43 B bd Davout (bte 16)
75020 Paris
France
May 24, 2016
I am a 12 year old and i admire your country very much. I am writing to you to express my great admiration for your personality and your action.
I would be very happy to have your autograph on the small card i’m sending you.
I thank you very much.
Sincerely,
Antoine
Dear Joe,
I am in Paris at the moment and doing and research and art project about this. Could you do me a favour and send a scan of the letter you received? Thanks for your help!
BEN
autograph_fan@gmx.com
Received a similar handwritten letter, dated November 2016 (Xia Xu, 16 years old, France). I am a visual artist from Southeastern Europe.
Dear you,
I am in Paris at the moment and doing and research and art project about this. Could you do me a favor and send a scan of the letter you received? Thanks for your help!
BEN
autograph_fan@gmx.com
I got a similar letter, dated December 14th 2016 from Xia Xu, 16 years old from Boucau, France).
Dear Christine,
I am in Paris at the moment and doing and research and art project about this. Could you do me a favour and send a scan of the letter you received? Thanks for your help!
BEN
autograph_fan@gmx.com
I received the same letter signed by Marie Martinez from Chez Rubin bee 16, 43B bd Davout 75020 Paris. 16 years old. 🙂
Dear Yonatan,
I am in Paris at the moment and doing and research and art project about this. Could you do me a favor and send a scan of the letter you received? Thanks for your help!
BEN
autograph_fan@gmx.com
And another one, received in NL in December 2016 with the “music” version, from:
Marie Martinez
Chez Rubin bte 16
43 B bd Davout
75020 Paris
How does this person find our addresses?
Dear bf,
I am in Paris at the moment and doing and research and art project about this. Could you do me a favor and send a scan of the letter you received? Thanks for your help!
I have I guess how he finds our addresses…
BEN
autograph_fan@gmx.com
Good luck Ben!
This is crazy, I just received a letter through a dutch museum where my art currently is on display. This letter is from Virginie Lopez, 43 B Bd Davout, 75020 Paris. same hand writing and phrases like ” I am discovering your work” … “Express my admiration and enthusiasm for your artistic way”…
I found it so nice that someone wrote me, but also a bit weird, so i tried googling first and ended here…
I think its kind of fascinating that this person has been sending these letters now for more than 10 years! and to people from all over the world. I am so curious who this person is and the motives behind. It seems fishy that the variety in artistic admiration is so widely spread, poets, writers, painters, other artistic medias and in completely different styles. There must be some other agenda to this, but no one has had any bad experience from returning their signature to “her” ??
Maybe its a art-project in itself 🙂
Hi Anna, I’m one of the people who returned my signature to this person as I had not any chance to search online in that moment and because I appreciate when someone likes what I do, so with a letter like that in my hands I did not think about a scam attempt.
I didn’t have any problem so far, but just because I do not know whether he/she uses signatures for other purposes. Anyway, anyone can create a fake signature and identity, then it depends on your ultimate aim. If this person uses this strategy just to collect signatures for more than 10 years he/she maybe hopes someone will become famous to be profitable. Or maybe I have not a clue about what is happening.
Dear Anna,
I am in Paris at the moment and doing and research and art project about this. Could you do me a favor and send a scan of the letter you received? Thanks for your help!
BEN
autograph_fan@gmx.com
Got a similar letter.
Seems interesting for me, so i decided to make an art piece about it.
Please contact me if you have received a letter from “Suzann”!
Email: autograph_fan@gmx.com
I got one too. Thanks for the info here. Sounds harmless after all!
JHB, please contact me (autograph_fan@gmx.com) — thanks BEN
I received the same letter (from Virginie Lopes, same address in Boucau, France, of the redacted letter pictured above) – in Chicago this week.
Dear PLP ,
I am in Paris at the moment and doing and research and art project about this. Could you do me a favor and send a scan of the letter you received? Thanks for your help!
BEN
autograph_fan@gmx.com
Thank you for writing this. I just 5 April 2017, today, got exactly the same letter from Virginie Lopes in Paris with the blank piece of paper first falling out of the envelope. Also I first felt flattered but soon little alarn clocks started to beep in My head and I started to Google and found your text. I will not send My autograph but perhaps a postcard with a picture of one of My sculptures in case this person is a real art lover ☺️
Best regards Bianca Maria Barmen
Dear Bianca Maria,
I am in Paris at the moment and doing and research and art project about this. Could you do me a favor and send a scan of the letter you received? Thanks for your help!
BEN
autograph_fan@gmx.com
10.05.2017
Ich habe auch einen gleichlautenden Brief bekommen. Von Virginie Lopes aus Boucau, rue du 11 novenmbre. Die Schrift sieht nicht nach jemand aus, der 16 Jahre alt ist.
Gruß, Sabine Banovic
Dear Sabine,
I am in Paris at the moment and doing and research and art project about this. Could you do me a favour and send a scan of the letter you received? Thanks for your help!
BEN
autograph_fan@gmx.com
Today I receive the same letter from Virginie lopes this time. What was the propose about this ? Someone did discover it ?
Dear Huemulin,
I am in Paris at the moment and doing and research and art project about this. Could you do me a favour and send me a scan of the letter you received?
Thanks for your help!
BEN
autograph_fan@gmx.com
Hola! Es increíble, por casualidad leí este post y tengo una carta casi idéntica a la que tú recibiste, de Suzanne. La mía está escrita en español y es del 2010. Realmente, no entendí mucho la intención y no le creí demasiado, así que terminé sin contestarle. No sé por qué razón, no me deshice de la carta, que todavía conservo en mi poder. Tiene la misma caligrafía que la que está dirigida a tí, y los mismos pétalos pegados en la parte superior izquierda. Está fechada en setiembre del 2010, Suzanne sostiene tener 16 años a esa fecha y la dirección postal de París es la misma que la que aparece en algunos comentarios, y la recibí por intermedio del Museo Nacional de Artes Visuales.
Saludos!
i got one in 2016. i forgot all about it until i was cleaning my office today. from ‘marie martinez’.
“Marie” sent me the same letter (via my gallery in NY) in 2014. I stumbled upon it again today!
I am a fine art photographer and received a similar letter that mentioned a book of mine and was mailed to my gallery which forwarded it to me. The writer is now calling herself
Han Wenwen but the address in Paris is still the same and includes the name “M. Rubin”
in the return address as well.
Roger Camp
I received this letter today. Sender is Ms Han WenWen (The name of a famous actress BTW). Photography is now her passion too.
Its not 1970 and a signature isn’t enough. My signature is on thousands of prints I have made over decades. Not worried that’s someone is now pretending to be me because they have my signature. Be flattered, someone likes your art.
OMG. This is so crazy! I am an artist and received this same letter (verbatim) 5 years ago, but from a Marie Martinez (Chezrubin boîte 16 / 43 B boulevard Davout / 75020 Paris). I was so flattered that I thought I would send her a package that included my monograph and a few other things. However, being the mentally scattered person that I am, I forgot about it and the letter fell behind a stack of books on a shelf. Today I found it and thought I would try and see if she was still at the same address. Naturally, my search lead me to this post. All I can say is that for once in my life, forgetfulness turned out to be a blessing in disguise!!!
On Boxing Day, I also received a letter from a Martina Lopez at the same address in Paris, France…its seems the letters are still being sent. Quite worrying.
Hi, I’m a german photographer and got this letter from Han Wenen two days ago. Handwritten. It is in English and there is an envelope with German stamp. If someone wants a scan. I think we should clear up this mystery. What do you all mean?
Fascinating. Just got that letter from a new name – Han Wenwen. It was sent to me via my gallery in Israel. It’s from the same address in Paris. I have had people send me stickers to autograph to paste in copies of my books that they purchased, but this seemed strange … and it was! But, it is always nice to know that someone cares. Hello to all these distinguished artists!